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Jenkins is finally realizing that he isn't the marquee guy in Milwaukee anymore, not to mention he is such a streaky hitter that it would be hard for him to find a rythem if he wasn't playing on a daily basis. with that said, it is a business and Jenkins and Mench both are lobbying for a better working contract in essence.
also, should jenkins' arm out there in right field be considered when deciding whose gonna be playing, i mean he does have a cannon and a half

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Jenkins is a Streaky hitter with a capital S. He will hit .175 for half the season and .400 for the other half making his overall numbers look respectable. Unfortunatly the .400 half is usually when the Brewers are so far out of the race, in large part because of his crappy first half, that it means absolutely dick. When Jenkins is on fire he can hit anything anywhere, but the reverse of that is when he isn't he swings right through fastballs down the middle. On a team where a veteren leader in the lineup is desperately needed, he just strikes out too much. Platooning him may make him pissed off enough to have one breakout season, in which case I hope we trade him as soon as his stock rises to the point of getting something good in return. You just never know which Jenkins is standing at the plate.

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The Brewers should just get rid of Jenkins. He's been there for a long time and has given them some productivity, but it doesn't seem worth it to keep him around. He's more concerned about getting his playing time than helping the team. He's not a great player, so platooning him probably isn't a bad idea, but he's just not going to accept them. I'd trade him before he becomes more of a problem.

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Trading him is the issue. Last year when he was streaking there was talk of him getting traded when his stock was high but it never happened. Right now he's not worth much, but there still is some history of producing, so do you trade him for what you can, or do you wait. If you wait, you risk that he just slumps bad and is worth nothing at all. But, if he starts getting hot, he could be worth either a middle of the road dependable pitcher or some decent prospects. The Brewers don't have him fitting in long term and a trade has to be there best option, so the question is, when do you do it?

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I agree that Jenkins needs to be traded, but I don't think they will ever get much for him.  He is 32 and past his prime.  The best the Brewers can hope for is a team who is in desparate need of an outfielder looking for a trade. Even in this case, I don't see the Brewers getting much for Jenkins.  They may be able to trade him to a team fighting to make the playoffs (unless the Brewers need him to make the playoffs).  Other than that I don't no, so to answer the original question, "Is Jenkins a problem?", I would have to say yes.



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Jenkins really isn't the problem, the problem is we have too many you talented outfielders that need time to develop (Gwynn Jr., and Anderson) and too many outfielder that should've left this offseason (Mench, Brady, and possibly Jenks), and a player who might be a great centerfielder in Laynce Nix. Jenkins is just in an awful situation of he's not the best... but he might be the best we've got. He's got an amazing arm for a leftfielder and has been one of the most underrated fielding outfielders for the last couple of years, and he's working on his 'toe-tap' timing so hopefully cut down on strikeouts.

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I can at least understand Jenkins whining a little bit, but after what Kevin Mench did in a Brewers uniform last year, he has no right to say anything. 

If all things were equal I'd prefer to keep Jenkins, because I could see him having a big season in a contract year.  I think Mench and Jenkins would make a good platoon, so if they don't trade anyone the Brewers should just force them into it.

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Whats the deal with Corey Hart? Is he factoring into playing time in the outfield this year or is he not ready or what? Is he gonna be in left or whats the deal there outside of Billy Hall in center.

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As far as anyone can tell, barring injuries and what not, Hart is going to be starting in right for the brewers and Hall will be in center. Left field is where the issue is, and where this discussion begins because the brewers have like 7 other outfields with major league experience vying for one spot. The smart money is on a Jenkins/Mench platoon but who knows what could happen in a month. Yost has said that he doesn't care what Jenkins or Mench say and that he will do what is best for the team

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Just a thing on Hart, this kid could be a stud in a couple of years

He is like 6'6" but can run like he is being chased.

In 2-3 years he will be a 30-30 guy if not better

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yea i when hart finnally got some playing time he was looking like he's got a lot of potential and hes got a sweet name. but wasnt he called up for a long time and just sat on the bench everyday? i could be wrong about that but i thought i remember wondering why the hell he was called up to sit on the bench when he could be in the minors playing. also, im still not sold on jenkins being a platoon outfielder. i think he could just pan out to suck all the time then. it seems like he's gotta get reps to get hot and you're just stuck taking the good with the bad.

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I agree with you entirely, I think Jenkins needs to go through the slumps to get to the hot part of his season that always happens, and platooning might just elongate the crappiness.

Hart was called up and sat during the middle of the year last season essentially because he was too good to leave down and didn't really have anything left to prove at AAA. He played basically the last 1/3 - 1/4 of the season as a starter after Ned benched Jenkins and did well hitting in the lead off spot.

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you gotta love that youth in the top of the line up. its just too bad that once they really blossom and their contracts are up they will all being wearing pinstripes.....well i guess its not that bad

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Yeah I'm a big Hart fan.  Also at this point out of all the options, I'd probably be inclined to just send out Jenkins in left field and see how that goes, and just give him some days off against tough lefties.

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Especially since Mench isn't going to give you anything too special, although he did fit in fine after joining the crew. If you just put Jenkins out in left it gives you more defense, the possibility of a very good hitter, and hopefully increasing his trade stock. Wiht no big time outfielder ready to fill in in left, why not just give Jenkins the spot, it seems that there would be more potential gain.

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Well Jenkins is already hitting well this spring, so this whole argument could be moot if he continues to rake and just gets the starting job coming out of spring. I like the situation the brewers are in, because maybe since Jenkins isn't guarenteed anything he will start to play like he has to earn something instead of just playing like he is the best thing the brewers have going (which certainly isn't the case anymore)

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Well Jenkins is already hitting well this spring, so this whole argument could be moot if he continues to rake and just gets the starting job coming out of spring. I like the situation the brewers are in, because maybe since Jenkins isn't guarenteed anything he will start to play like he has to earn something instead of just playing like he is the best thing the brewers have going (which certainly isn't the case anymore)

Great point; I hope this is the case.



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players do tend to break out in contract years and this is a simialr situation. but it seems like he's been so streaky for so long its not a matter of him really focusing as much as it is just a part of his game.

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